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Old 12-26-2015, 12:13 PM  
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WalterFootball is at it again with the Chiefs
Good ol' Walter is back on the hate train with the Chiefs for yet another consecutive week. At this point, I almost want him to continue to shit on our rep as we continue to prove all of his nonsense wrong. Read below as this week Walter suggests that because we get turnovers 'handed to us', we will beat the Browns by a score of 19-13.....




KANSAS CITY OFFENSE: I don't want to hear anything about Alex Smith playing well because Andy Reid could've utilized the Bobby Boucher offense the past few weeks and had success with it. The Chiefs have battled three teams that either couldn't score or gave the game away with turnovers in as many weeks. The Raiders were driving to go up nine or 13 before Derek Carr fired a barrage of pick-sixes; the Chargers posted just three points, though they dropped a ball that would've sent the game to overtime; and Baltimore handed Kansas City four gift touchdowns on penalties or turnovers.

Smith dinked and dunked to his heart's desire last week, coming away from the game with just one solid drive despite battling a horrible pass defense. The Browns aren't any better in that regard, as Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett roasted them this past Sunday, but Smith won't exactly attack Cleveland downfield like Russell Wilson did.

The Browns don't stop the run well either, however, so Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware figure to trample them, at least on paper. Ware is expected to return, so West's poor fantasy owners will have to turn elsewhere. Regardless, the two should combine to post a massive yardage amount, but only if guard Jeff Allen suits up. Allen has been missing recently, and while many don't know who he is, he's been Kansas City's top blocker. Also, Travis Kelce is considered questionable, so his absence would be huge.

CLEVELAND OFFENSE: Johnny Manziel's competence has been quite the surprise. Ever since returning to the field following his drunken escapades, Manziel has been very effective. He beat the 49ers, which wasn't a huge deal, but he was able to keep his team around versus the Seahawks and their tough defense, which was impressive.

If Manziel was able to perform well at Seattle, why can't he do so at Kansas City? Justin Houston is still out, so the opportunity will be there for Manziel. He'll hook up with Gary Barnidge quite often, as the blossoming tight end has proven to be unstoppable.

Running the ball could be problematic, however. The last time the Chiefs surrendered 100-plus yards on the ground was back in Week 7, and the Browns don't exactly have the talented backs to overcome this.

RECAP: This spread is way too high. The Chiefs haven't done crap in the past four weeks to warrant such a line. They defeated the Ravens by 20, but Baltimore handed them that game on a silver platter with a personal foul penalty, a Buck Allen strip-six, a fake punt from its own 17-yard line and a pick-six when the receiver fell down. The Chargers nearly sent their game to overtime. The Raiders self-destructed when it appeared as though they were going to take control of the contest. In fact, the last convincing victory Kansas City had was back in Week 12 when they beat the Bills, 30-22, but that's looking less and less impressive, as Buffalo has suffered consecutive defeats to NFC East teams since.

Moving forward, the Chiefs are expected to win against a team that has nothing to lose, so this has "choke job" written all over it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Kansas City lost this one straight up. The Browns, who have been way more competitive lately, should at least cover against a team that is suddenly banged up.

I'm listing this as a two-unit wager for now. I don't want to go crazy with a 3-11 squad, but I'll be pretty surprised if the Chiefs win in a blowout.

WEDNESDAY NOTES: A commenter below pointed out that I've gotten a bunch of Kansas City picks wrong. I think I've been on the right side of the past three Chiefs selections, but bad luck allowed the other teams to cover. I'm pretty confident in this selection, and I was thinking about moving this up to three units.


The Psychology. Edge: None.
No edge found.


The Vegas. Edge: Browns.
A ton of money on the host.
Percentage of money on Kansas City: 82% (2,000 bets)


The Trends. Edge: .
Opening Line: Chiefs -13.
Opening Total: 44.
Weather: .


Week 16 NFL Pick: Chiefs 19, Browns 13
Browns +12.5 (2 Units)
Under 43 (0 Units)
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Old 12-26-2015, 08:48 PM   #46
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I understand that . But does 1 playoff win even help.
Immensely
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:07 PM   #47
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Had 3 out of 4 winning seasons with Vermeil with the most exciting offense in football was nice to.
But we had the worst defense. This team is much more balanced.
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:35 PM   #48
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But we had the worst defense. This team is much more balanced.
From my perspective it seems like its not so much balanced , as it is defensive oriented.

It still seems imbalanced, just the other direction.

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Old 12-26-2015, 09:42 PM   #49
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From my perspective it seems like its not so much balanced , as it is defensive oriented.

It still seems imbalanced, just the other direction.

/shrug
Its more balanced Id say. Instead of 90/10 now its more like 20/80.
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:52 PM   #50
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Its more balanced Id say. Instead of 90/10 now its more like 20/80.
Our offense is better than either you or Pawnmower give it credit for. Certainly it is tilted toward the D, but not as much as you say.
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:00 PM   #51
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Its more balanced Id say. Instead of 90/10 now its more like 20/80.
Obviously you're kidding about the exact numbers but I do agree this team isn't THAT imbalanced

Those vermeil seasons were so ridiculously imbalanced there's LITERALLY no way we will ever see that again
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:09 PM   #52
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I think some Chiefs fans gang raped his wife.
Wife???? I think he got dumped by his boyfriend.
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:39 PM   #53
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Obviously you're kidding about the exact numbers but I do agree this team isn't THAT imbalanced

Those vermeil seasons were so ridiculously imbalanced there's LITERALLY no way we will ever see that again
Yeah... still say they were a Wade Phillips caliber DC from being a contender.
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Old 12-27-2015, 12:40 AM   #54
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Old 12-27-2015, 01:18 AM   #55
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Yeah... still say they were a Wade Phillips caliber DC from being a contender.
Greg Robinson was beyond awful
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:29 AM   #56
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I can't say for any specific poster, but I think for many, winning a playoff game after all these years will earn this team some credibility.
Absolutely.

And not only KC fans. The whole of the NFL will go from EXPECTING a choke to taking KC seriously...
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:34 AM   #57
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I'll say this much, the next two weeks will be excellent tests for Ford & Zombo.

Both the Browns and the Raiders are clearly inferior teams but with excellent tackles at LT and RT, so we can theoretically afford to throw Ford/Zombo at them and see what they're made of and how desperate we'll be for Hali and Houston to heal up...
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:41 AM   #58
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I'll say this much, the next two weeks will be excellent tests for Ford & Zombo.

Both the Browns and the Raiders are clearly inferior teams but with excellent tackles at LT and RT, so we can theoretically afford to throw Ford/Zombo at them and see what they're made of and how desperate we'll be for Hali and Houston to heal up...
I doubt we manage any kind of pass rush at all without blitzing. The Browns have a pretty stout line...
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:46 AM   #59
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I doubt we manage any kind of pass rush at all without blitzing. The Browns have a pretty stout line...
So do the Raiders.

And we can probably beat both without racking up a ton of sacks, so I'm almost inclined to just say rest both passrushers until the playoffs and let's get Ford and Zombo tons and tons of reps.

That's not a popular position, but I want to win a ****ing playoff game.
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:53 AM   #60
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You want to keep Manziel in the pocket. He gets really good when he's running around breaking containment and improvising. Keep him in the pocket and I think BPS (Berry, Peters and Smith) and company get at least 2 picks, maybe 3.
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