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pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-26-2015, 12:13 PM

Good ol' Walter is back on the hate train with the Chiefs for yet another consecutive week. At this point, I almost want him to continue to shit on our rep as we continue to prove all of his nonsense wrong. Read below as this week Walter suggests that because we get turnovers 'handed to us', we will beat the Browns by a score of 19-13.....

KANSAS CITY OFFENSE: I don't want to hear anything about Alex Smith playing well because Andy Reid could've utilized the Bobby Boucher offense the past few weeks and had success with it. The Chiefs have battled three teams that either couldn't score or gave the game away with turnovers in as many weeks. The Raiders were driving to go up nine or 13 before Derek Carr fired a barrage of pick-sixes; the Chargers posted just three points, though they dropped a ball that would've sent the game to overtime; and Baltimore handed Kansas City four gift touchdowns on penalties or turnovers.

Smith dinked and dunked to his heart's desire last week, coming away from the game with just one solid drive despite battling a horrible pass defense. The Browns aren't any better in that regard, as Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett roasted them this past Sunday, but Smith won't exactly attack Cleveland downfield like Russell Wilson did.

The Browns don't stop the run well either, however, so Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware figure to trample them, at least on paper. Ware is expected to return, so West's poor fantasy owners will have to turn elsewhere. Regardless, the two should combine to post a massive yardage amount, but only if guard Jeff Allen suits up. Allen has been missing recently, and while many don't know who he is, he's been Kansas City's top blocker. Also, Travis Kelce is considered questionable, so his absence would be huge.

CLEVELAND OFFENSE: Johnny Manziel's competence has been quite the surprise. Ever since returning to the field following his drunken escapades, Manziel has been very effective. He beat the 49ers, which wasn't a huge deal, but he was able to keep his team around versus the Seahawks and their tough defense, which was impressive.

If Manziel was able to perform well at Seattle, why can't he do so at Kansas City? Justin Houston is still out, so the opportunity will be there for Manziel. He'll hook up with Gary Barnidge quite often, as the blossoming tight end has proven to be unstoppable.

Running the ball could be problematic, however. The last time the Chiefs surrendered 100-plus yards on the ground was back in Week 7, and the Browns don't exactly have the talented backs to overcome this.

RECAP: This spread is way too high. The Chiefs haven't done crap in the past four weeks to warrant such a line. They defeated the Ravens by 20, but Baltimore handed them that game on a silver platter with a personal foul penalty, a Buck Allen strip-six, a fake punt from its own 17-yard line and a pick-six when the receiver fell down. The Chargers nearly sent their game to overtime. The Raiders self-destructed when it appeared as though they were going to take control of the contest. In fact, the last convincing victory Kansas City had was back in Week 12 when they beat the Bills, 30-22, but that's looking less and less impressive, as Buffalo has suffered consecutive defeats to NFC East teams since.

Moving forward, the Chiefs are expected to win against a team that has nothing to lose, so this has "choke job" written all over it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Kansas City lost this one straight up. The Browns, who have been way more competitive lately, should at least cover against a team that is suddenly banged up.

I'm listing this as a two-unit wager for now. I don't want to go crazy with a 3-11 squad, but I'll be pretty surprised if the Chiefs win in a blowout.

WEDNESDAY NOTES: A commenter below pointed out that I've gotten a bunch of Kansas City picks wrong. I think I've been on the right side of the past three Chiefs selections, but bad luck allowed the other teams to cover. I'm pretty confident in this selection, and I was thinking about moving this up to three units.

The Psychology. Edge: None.
No edge found.

The Vegas. Edge: Browns.
A ton of money on the host.
Percentage of money on Kansas City: 82% (2,000 bets)

The Trends. Edge: .
Opening Line: Chiefs -13.
Opening Total: 44.
Weather: .

Week 16 NFL Pick: Chiefs 19, Browns 13
Browns +12.5 (2 Units)
Under 43 (0 Units)

**ChiTown** · 12-27-2015, 09:57 AM

Chiefs 34
Shit Stains 17

**Gonzo** · 12-27-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Exactly 6 of the last 8 games have been won by double-digits. Walter keeps dismissing great defensive play and attributing the wins to the other team "giving it away" but how many games do the Chiefs have to win in this fashion to constitute a trend?

Fact is the Chiefs have played one bad game in two months and in that bad game we held the opponent to 3 points.

If the Chiefs continue to play as they have the past 8 games it won't matter what the Browns do.

Exactly. And you can't even say they played all that bad. The defense was very good considering the injuries, weather and field conditions.

If I was a gambler, I'd either bet exactly opposite of this guys predictions or take my advice from the local smack head.
That's not really fair to the local smack head, actually. I hear he's 29-2 on his pics this year.

FringeNC · 12-27-2015, 10:50 AM

We're in the top 10 in the league in both offensive yards per play and defensive yards per play. That's not luck. We're one of the best teams in the league.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-27-2015, 10:53 AM

But but but cat daddy said they are 20/80....That's Denver

BigCatDaddy · 12-27-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

But but but cat daddy said they are 20/80....That's Denver

24th in yards per game and 8th in points. Why do you think that is?

FringeNC · 12-27-2015, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

24th in yards per game and 8th in points. Why do you think that is?

We shorten the game by running a lot. It's not total yards that are important. It's yards per play and that should be obvious.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-27-2015, 10:59 AM

Less offensive plays? Top 10 in yards per play and points

BigCatDaddy · 12-27-2015, 11:06 AM

Shorter fields and defensive scoring. We are 24th in average yards per drive.

This team goes as the defense goes. I cant believe anyone would say differently.

**Rausch** · 12-27-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Shorter fields and defensive scoring.

This team goes as the defense goes. I cant believe anyone would say differently.

With Houston and Hali scratched for today I see us giving up way more passing yards than we should and finally win after (yet another) Peters pick...

BigCatDaddy · 12-27-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

With Houston and Hali scratched for today I see us giving up way more passing yards than we should and finally win after (yet another) Peters pick...

Maybe but Cleveland is THAT bad and hopefully already checked out for the year.

RINGLEADER · 12-27-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Less offensive plays? Top 10 in yards per play and points

Yep -- I was watching some yahoos who do previews of the games for NFL.com and they were going on and on about how KC was out gained last week in Baltimore.

Hello.

We scored 14 points on two defensive touchdowns. That meant that we not only stopped the drives, but we scored without the need of a single offensive snap (or yard).

Sometimes the football "experts" really surprise me with their lack of football knowledge.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-27-2015, 11:18 AM

You certainly can't look at YPG to get the best gauge on an offense itself. Not when you play ball control like the Chiefs do.

Also, YPG can be a really overrated stat in terms of rank as well. Yes, KC is 24th. But they're also about 30 yards from tenth. That difference can be made fairly easlily in 1-2 plays.

RINGLEADER · 12-27-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

With Houston and Hali scratched for today I see us giving up way more passing yards than we should and finally win after (yet another) Peters pick...

To me I think we lose a fumble and a sack or two from Johnny holding the ball too long.

As long as the Chiefs play like they have the last two months it won't matter what the Browns do -- even without our premier pass rush.

BigCatDaddy · 12-27-2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Its more balanced Id say. Instead of 90/10 now its more like 20/80.

Yeah. Id say that is about right.

12-26-2015, 12:13 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	WalterFootball is at it again with the Chiefs Good ol' Walter is back on the hate train with the Chiefs for yet another consecutive week. At this point, I almost want him to continue to shit on our rep as we continue to prove all of his nonsense wrong. Read below as this week Walter suggests that because we get turnovers 'handed to us', we will beat the Browns by a score of 19-13..... KANSAS CITY OFFENSE: I don't want to hear anything about Alex Smith playing well because Andy Reid could've utilized the Bobby Boucher offense the past few weeks and had success with it. The Chiefs have battled three teams that either couldn't score or gave the game away with turnovers in as many weeks. The Raiders were driving to go up nine or 13 before Derek Carr fired a barrage of pick-sixes; the Chargers posted just three points, though they dropped a ball that would've sent the game to overtime; and Baltimore handed Kansas City four gift touchdowns on penalties or turnovers. Smith dinked and dunked to his heart's desire last week, coming away from the game with just one solid drive despite battling a horrible pass defense. The Browns aren't any better in that regard, as Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett roasted them this past Sunday, but Smith won't exactly attack Cleveland downfield like Russell Wilson did. The Browns don't stop the run well either, however, so Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware figure to trample them, at least on paper. Ware is expected to return, so West's poor fantasy owners will have to turn elsewhere. Regardless, the two should combine to post a massive yardage amount, but only if guard Jeff Allen suits up. Allen has been missing recently, and while many don't know who he is, he's been Kansas City's top blocker. Also, Travis Kelce is considered questionable, so his absence would be huge. CLEVELAND OFFENSE: Johnny Manziel's competence has been quite the surprise. Ever since returning to the field following his drunken escapades, Manziel has been very effective. He beat the 49ers, which wasn't a huge deal, but he was able to keep his team around versus the Seahawks and their tough defense, which was impressive. If Manziel was able to perform well at Seattle, why can't he do so at Kansas City? Justin Houston is still out, so the opportunity will be there for Manziel. He'll hook up with Gary Barnidge quite often, as the blossoming tight end has proven to be unstoppable. Running the ball could be problematic, however. The last time the Chiefs surrendered 100-plus yards on the ground was back in Week 7, and the Browns don't exactly have the talented backs to overcome this. RECAP: This spread is way too high. The Chiefs haven't done crap in the past four weeks to warrant such a line. They defeated the Ravens by 20, but Baltimore handed them that game on a silver platter with a personal foul penalty, a Buck Allen strip-six, a fake punt from its own 17-yard line and a pick-six when the receiver fell down. The Chargers nearly sent their game to overtime. The Raiders self-destructed when it appeared as though they were going to take control of the contest. In fact, the last convincing victory Kansas City had was back in Week 12 when they beat the Bills, 30-22, but that's looking less and less impressive, as Buffalo has suffered consecutive defeats to NFC East teams since. Moving forward, the Chiefs are expected to win against a team that has nothing to lose, so this has "choke job" written all over it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Kansas City lost this one straight up. The Browns, who have been way more competitive lately, should at least cover against a team that is suddenly banged up. I'm listing this as a two-unit wager for now. I don't want to go crazy with a 3-11 squad, but I'll be pretty surprised if the Chiefs win in a blowout. WEDNESDAY NOTES: A commenter below pointed out that I've gotten a bunch of Kansas City picks wrong. I think I've been on the right side of the past three Chiefs selections, but bad luck allowed the other teams to cover. I'm pretty confident in this selection, and I was thinking about moving this up to three units. The Psychology. Edge: None. No edge found. The Vegas. Edge: Browns. A ton of money on the host. Percentage of money on Kansas City: 82% (2,000 bets) The Trends. Edge: . Opening Line: Chiefs -13. Opening Total: 44. Weather: . Week 16 NFL Pick: Chiefs 19, Browns 13 Browns +12.5 (2 Units) Under 43 (0 Units)
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12-27-2015, 09:57 AM	#61
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! ChiTown's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas	Chiefs 34 Shit Stains 17
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12-27-2015, 10:50 AM	#63
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC	We're in the top 10 in the league in both offensive yards per play and defensive yards per play. That's not luck. We're one of the best teams in the league.
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12-27-2015, 10:53 AM	#64
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A.	But but but cat daddy said they are 20/80....That's Denver
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12-27-2015, 10:59 AM	#67
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A.	Less offensive plays? Top 10 in yards per play and points
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12-27-2015, 11:06 AM	#68
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head BigCatDaddy's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown	Shorter fields and defensive scoring. We are 24th in average yards per drive. This team goes as the defense goes. I cant believe anyone would say differently.
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12-27-2015, 11:18 AM	#72
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	You certainly can't look at YPG to get the best gauge on an offense itself. Not when you play ball control like the Chiefs do. Also, YPG can be a really overrated stat in terms of rank as well. Yes, KC is 24th. But they're also about 30 yards from tenth. That difference can be made fairly easlily in 1-2 plays.
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